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There have been a lot of bold claims about how generative AI and machine learning will transform the SOC. Ironically, the SOC was (arguably) invented only because security products failed to make good on bold claims. The cybersecurity market is full of products that exist only to solve the problems created by other security products (Security Analytics, SOC Automation, Risk-Based Vulnerability Management).

Other products are natural evolutions and pick up where others leave off. In this interview, we'll explore what AI can and can't do, particularly when it comes to alert triage and other common SOC tasks.

Segment Resources:

• From Forrester: Generative AI Will Not Fulfill Your Autonomous SOC Hopes (Or Even Your Demo Dreams)
• From Intezer: Mastering SOC Automation in 2024: Tips, Trends and Tools
• The Future of SOC Automation Platforms
• SentinelOne wants to make the autonomous SOC a reality

Naturally, the next approach to try is a federated one. How do we break down cybersecurity into more bite-sized components? How do we alleviate all this CISO stress we've heard about, and make their job seem less impossible than it does today?

This will be a more standards and GRC focused discussion, covering:

1. the reasons why cross-walking doesn't work
2. the reasons why traditional TPRM approaches (e.g. questionnaires) don't work
3. opportunities for AI to help
4. risk management or sales support?

This week in the enterprise security news,

1. Upwind Security gets a massive $100M Series B
2. Trustwave and Cybereason merge
3. NVIDIA wants to force SOC analyst millennials to socialize with AI agents
4. Has the cybersecurity workforce peaked?
5. Why incident response is essential for resilience
6. an example of good product marketing
7. who is Salvatore Verini, Jr. and why does he have all my data?

All that and more, on this episode of Enterprise Security Weekly.

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CISOs struggle more with reactive budgets than CIOs or CTOs. It's not that part of the CISO's budget shouldn't be reactive, it's certainly necessary to an extent. The problem is when proactive measures suffer as a result. In this interview, we'll discuss some of the causes behind this and some strategies for breaking out of this loop.

This segment is sponsored by LevelBlue. Visit https://securityweekly.com/levelblue to learn more about them!

Is it a product or a feature? Is it DLP 4.0, or something legitimately new? Buy now, or wait for further consolidation?

There are SO many questions about this market. It's undeniably important - data hygiene and governance continues to be a frustrating mess in many organizations, but is this the solution? We'll discuss with Todd to find out.

In the enterprise security news,

1. Some big fundings
2. no less than 4 acquisitions
3. Silencing the EDR silencers
4. ghost jobs
5. overinflated estimates on open cybersecurity jobs
6. weaponizing Microsoft Copilot
7. fun projects with disposable vapes

All that and more, on this episode of Enterprise Security Weekly.

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The future is here! Imagine if you could get into the office, a datacenter, or even an apartment building as easily as you unlock your smartphone. Alcatraz AI is doing exactly that with technology that works similarly to how smartphones unlock using your face. It works in the dark, if you shave off your beard, and so quickly you don't even need to slow down for the scan - you can just keep on walking.

We don't often cover physical security, so this interview is going to be a treat for us. There are SO many questions to ask here, particularly for our hosts who have done physical penetration tests, social engineering, and tailgating in the past to get past physical security measures.

This week, in the enterprise security news:

1. the latest cybersecurity fundings
2. Cyera acquires Trail Security
3. Sophos acquires Secureworks
4. new companies and products
5. more coverage on Cyberstarts’ sunrise program
6. AI can control your PC
7. public cybersecurity companies are going private
8. Splunk and Palo Alto beef

All that and more, on this episode of Enterprise Security Weekly.

Segment description coming soon!

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Ever heard someone say, "the attacker only has to be right once, but the defender has to get it right every time"? On this episode, we'll dispel that myth. There is some truth to the saying, but only with regards to initial access to the target's environment. Once on the inside, the attacker's advantage flips to the defender. Call it the 'Home Alone' effect. Or the Goonies effect? Die Hard? So many movie metaphors work here!

The conversation isn't just about setting traps for attackers, however, there's also a conversation to have about fundamentals and ensuring practitioners are prepared for whatever attackers might throw at them. This segment is inspired by the essay from Lenny by the same name: Transform the Defender’s Dilemma into the Defender’s Advantage

The vast majority of the folks working polls and elections are volunteers. This creates a significant training challenge. Not only do they have to learn how to perform a complex and potentially stressful job in a short amount of time (most training is one day or less), cybersecurity-related concerns are usually not included for individual poll location and election workers.

Kirsten Davies has a passion project that attempts to solve this, with some concise, accessible, and straightforward training material. It is made available through two PDFs on her new organization's website, instituteforcybercivics.org.

Customer Identity is everywhere. It's powering secure experiences for billions - enabling people to check their luggage at the airport, watch their favorite Major League Soccer games, or take their favorite Peloton class. Because it’s everywhere, threat actors now see customer identity as a path to financial gain. Bots now make up nearly 50% of all internet traffic and are being used to steal sign-up bonuses or breach accounts. And cybercriminals are bypassing the login box completely, stealing authenticated session cookies at record rates. Bhawna Singh. Chief Technology Officer of Customer Identity Cloud at Okta joins host Mandy Logan, from Security Weekly, to discuss the current state of customer identity, what developers need to know about securing their applications and what Okta is doing to help developers build applications that decipher a human from a bot.

Segment Resources: https://www.okta.com/oktane/ https://www.okta.com/press-room/press-releases/okta-helps-builders-easily-implement-auth-for-genai-apps-secure-how/

Whether it’s phishing techniques, password spraying, or social engineering, security leaders today are constantly needing to see past blindspots, educate their workforces, and rethink the enterprise security checklist. Many companies, like Okta, are finding ways to incorporate security within their company culture, as every employee has a role to play in keeping a company secure. Charlotte Wylie, Deputy CSO at Okta, joins Security Weekly's Mandy Logan to discuss what security leaders are being challenged with today when it comes to securing their workforce and from experience with implementing Okta’s Secure Identity Commitment how companies can be prioritizing security within their culture to help prevent threat actors from taking advantage of the weakest link.

Segment Resources: https://www.okta.com/blog/2024/08/how-okta-fosters-a-security-culture/ https://www.okta.com/press-room/press-releases/okta-openid-foundation-tech-firms-tackle-todays-biggest-cybersecurity/

This segment is sponsored by Oktane. Visit https://securityweekly.com/oktane2024 and use discount code OKTNSC24 to pay only $100 for your full conference pass!

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Secure by design is more than just AppSec - it addresses how the whole business designs systems and processes to be effective and resilient. The latest report from LevelBlue on Cyber Resilience reveals security programs that are reactive, ill-equipped, and disconnected from IT and business leaders.

Most security problems are out of security teams' hands. Addressing them requires input, buy-in, and action from business leaders and IT. Security cannot afford to be separate from the rest of the organization.

In this interview, we'll discuss how we could potentially solve some of these issues with Theresa Lanowitz from LevelBlue.

Segment Resources:

• Grab your copy of the LevelBlue Futures Report on Cyber Resilience

This segment is sponsored by LevelBlue. Visit https://securityweekly.com/levelblue to learn more about them!

Implementing SASE can be tricky and onerous, but it doesn't have to be. Today, we discuss Unified SASE as a Service with Renuka Nadkarni, Chief Product Officer at Aryaka. Particularly, how can Unified SASE make both networking and security more flexible and agile?

IT and security professionals need to ensure secure and performant applications and data access to all users across their distributed global network without escalating cost, risk or complexity, or sacrificing user experience.

This segment is sponsored by Aryaka. Visit https://securityweekly.com/aryaka to learn more about them!

Finally, in the enterprise security news,

1. HUMAN, Relyance AI, and watchTowr raise funding this week
2. Alternative paths to becoming a CISO
3. Vendor booths don’t have to suck (for vendors or conference attendees!)
4. Budget planning guidance for 2025
5. CISOs might not be that great at predicting their own future needs
6. Use this one easy trick to bypass EDR!
7. Analyzing the latest breaches and malware
8. You probably shouldn’t buy a Fisker Ocean, no matter how cheap they get

All that and more, on this episode of Enterprise Security Weekly.

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For this interview, Ben from CyberNest joins us to talk about one of my favorite subjects: information sharing in infosec. There are so many amazing skills, tips, techniques, and intel that security professionals have to share. Sadly, a natural corporate reluctance to share information viewed as privileged and private has historically had a chilling effect on information sharing.

We'll discuss how to build such a community, how to clear the historical hurdles with information sharing, and how to monetize it without introducing bias and compromising the integrity of the information shared.

Aaron was already a skilled bug hunter and working at HackerOne as a triage analyst at the time. What he discovered can't even be described as a software bug or a vulnerability. This type of finding has probably resulted in more security incidents and breaches than any other category: the unintentional misconfiguration.

There's a lot of conversation right now about the grey space around 'shared responsibility'. In our news segment later, we'll also be discussing the difference between secure design and secure defaults. The recent incidents revolving around Snowflake customers getting compromised via credential stuffing attacks is a great example of this. Open AWS S3 buckets are probably the best known example of this problem. At what point is the service provider responsible for customer mistakes? When 80% of customers are making expensive, critical mistakes? Doesn't the service provider have a responsibility to protect its customers (even if it's from themselves)?

These are the kinds of issues that led to Aaron getting his current job as Chief of SaaS Security Research at AppOmni, and also led to him recently finding another common misconfiguration - this time in ServiceNow's products. Finally, we'll discuss the value of a good bug report, and how it can be a killer addition to your resume if you're interested in this kind of work!

Segment Resources:

• Aaron's blog about the ServiceNow data exposure.
• The ServiceNow blog, thanking AppOmni for its support in uncovering the issue.

In the enterprise security news,

1. Eon, Resolve AI, Harmonic and more raise funding
2. Dragos acquires Network Perception
3. Prevalent acquires Miratech
4. The latest DFIR reports
5. A spicy security product review
6. Secure by Whatever
7. New threats
8. Hot takes

All that and more, on this episode of Enterprise Security Weekly.

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Our latest in a series of interviews discussing cybersecurity career paths, today we talk to Jayson Grace his path into cybersecurity and his experience building red teams at national labs and purple teams at Meta. We also talk about his community impact, giving talks and building open source tools. Jayson just left Meta for an AI safety startup named Dreadnode, which we'll discuss as well.

Segment Resources:

• CyberSecEval 3: Advancing the Evaluation of Cybersecurity Risks and Capabilities in Large Language Models
• The [TTPForge] (https://github.com/facebookincubator/TTPForge) is a Cybersecurity Framework for developing, automating, and executing attacker Tactics, Techniques, and Procedures (TTPs).
• ForgeArmory provides TTPs that can be used with the TTPForge
• Wired, by Lily Hay Newman: Facebook's ‘Red Team X’ Hunts Bugs Beyond the Social Network's Walls
• MOSE (Master Of SErvers) is a post exploitation tool for configuration management servers.
• BSides SF 2024 - Beyond Quick Cash: Rethinking Bug Bounties for Greater Impact
• BSides LV 2023 - [GF - Enemy Within: Leveraging Purple Teams for Advanced Threat Detection & Prevention - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MT0tNi2vvc

This week in the enterprise security news, we've got:

1. Torq, Tamnoon, and Defect Dojo raise funding
2. Checkmarx acquires ZAP
3. Commvault acquires Clumio
4. Would you believe San Francisco is NOT the most funded metro area for cybersecurity?
5. Auto-doxxing Smart glasses are now possible
6. Meta gets fined $100M for storing plaintext passwords
7. AI coding assistants might not be living up to expectations
8. Worst Practices
9. Dumpster fires and truth bombs

All that and more, on this episode of Enterprise Security Weekly!

The way we use browsers has changed, so has the way we need to secure them. Using a secure enterprise browser to execute content away from the endpoint, inside a secure cloud browser is a dramatically more effective and cost-effective approach to protect users and secure access.

This segment is sponsored by Menlo Security. Visit https://securityweekly.com/menloisw to learn more about them!

Sevco is a cloud-native vulnerability and exposure management platform built atop asset intelligence to enable rapid risk prioritization, mitigation, validation, and metrics.

Segment Resources: Customer Testimonials: https://www.sevcosecurity.com/testimonials/ Product Videos: https://www.sevcosecurity.com/sevcoshorts/

This segment is sponsored by Sevco Security. Visit https://securityweekly.com/sevcoisw to learn more about them!

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The SIEM market has undergone some significant changes this summer. This is a great opportunity to talk about the current state of SIEM! In this conversation, we'll discuss:

• market changes and terminology: security analytics, data lakes, SIEM
• what is SOAR's role in the current SIEM market?
• machine learning and generative AI's role
• strategies for implementing a SIEM
• common mistakes that still lead to SIEMs becoming shelfware
• and much more!

Both Seth and Adrian have a long history when it comes to SIEMs, so this conversation will be packed with anecdotes, stories, and lessons learned!

This segment is sponsored by Graylog. Visit https://securityweekly.com/graylog to learn more about them!

We've been hearing a lot lately about how the talent gap in cybersecurity is much more complex than some folks have been making it out to be. While making six figures after going through a six week boot camp might be overselling the cybersecurity job market a bit, it is definitely a complex space with lots of opportunities.

Fortunately, we have folks building passion projects like My Cyber Path. When Jason transitioned into cyber from the military, he took note of the path he took. He also noticed how different the path was for many of his peers. Inspired by NIST NICE and other programs designed to help folks get a start in cyber, he created My Cyber Path.

My Cyber Path has a very organized approach. There are 12 paths outlined, which fall into 4 main areas. After taking a personality test, this tool suggests the best paths for you. Hmmm, this sounds a lot like the sorting hat in Harry Potter, and there are 4 "houses" you could get put into... coincidence?

Segment Resources: My Cyber Path has a free account where people can get matched to a cybersecurity work role based on their interests and personality traits and get access to free areas in the platform without having to save a credit card.

• https://www.mycyberpath.com/
• https://www.mycyberpath.com/auth/register

In the Enterprise News, the hosts discuss various trends and challenges in the cybersecurity landscape, including the evolution of terminology, funding trends, the emergence of new startups, and the impact of AI on security practices. They also explore the challenges faced by CISOs, the importance of humor in the industry, and the future of quantum readiness. The conversation highlights the need for clarity in cybersecurity messaging and the potential for consolidation in the market.

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A month ago, my friend Wolfgang Goerlich posted a hot take on LinkedIn that is less and less of a hot take these days.

He posted, "our industry needs to kill the phish test",and I knew we needed to have a chat, ideally captured here on the podcast.

I've been on the fence when it comes to phishing simulation, partly because I used to phish people as a penetration tester. It always succeeded, and always would succeed, as long as it's part of someone's job to open emails and read them. Did that make phishing simulation a Sisyphean task? Was there any value in making some of the employees more 'phishing resistant'?

And who is in charge of these simulations? Who looks at a fake end-of-quarter bonus email and says, "yeah, that's cool, send that out."

Segment Resources:

• Phishing in Organizations: Findings from a Large-Scale and Long-Term Study
• The GoDaddy Phishing Awareness Test
• The Chicago Tribune - How a Phishing Awareness Test Went Very Wrong
• University of California Santa Cruz - This uni thought it would be a good idea to do a phishing test with a fake Ebola scare

In this episode, we explore some compelling reasons for transitioning from traditional SOAR tools to next-generation SOAR platforms. Discover how workflow automation and orchestration offers unparalleled speed and flexibility, allowing organizations to stay ahead of evolving security threats. We also delve into how advancements in AI are driving this shift, making new platforms more adaptable and responsive to current market demands.

Segment Resources:

• Learn more about using Tines for Security
• Peruse the Tines library of 'Stories' built by Tines partners and customers
• Learn how to integrate AI tooling into Tines stories and workflows

This segment is sponsored by Tines. Visit https://securityweekly.com/tines to learn more about them!

This week, the cybersecurity industry's most basic assumptions under scrutiny. Following up our conversation with Wolfgang Goerlich, where he questions the value of phishing simulations, we discuss essays that call into question:

• the maturity of the industry
• the supposed "talent gap" with millions of open jobs despite complaints that this industry is difficult to break into
• cybersecurity's 'delusion' problem

Also some whoopsies:

• researchers accidentally take over a TLD
• When nearly all your customers make the same insecure configuration mistakes, maybe it's not all their fault, ServiceNow finds out

Fortinet has a breach, but is it really accurate to call it that?

Some Coalfire pentesters that were arrested in Iowa 5 years ago share some unheard details about the event, and how it is still impacting their lives on a daily basis five years later.

The news this week isn't all negative though! We discuss an insightful essay on detection engineering for managers from Ryan McGeehan is a must read for secops managers.

Finally, we discuss a fun and excellent writeup on what happens when you ignore the integrity of your data at the beginning of a 20 year research project that resulted in several bestselling books and a Netflix series!

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This week, in the enterprise security news,

1. Cribl, Zafran, and US states raise funding
2. Cisco, Check Point, Salesforce, and Absolute Software acquire cybersecurity startups
3. AI Security products are picking up steam
4. You probably shouldn’t be too worried about Yubikey cloning
5. Instead, you should be more worried about malicious npm packages!
6. The White House wants to fix BGP
7. SolarWinds has shady stuff in its source code, AGAIN
8. The challenge of bringing security to small business
9. Scams are getting quicker and more effective
10. how not to run a phishing test
11. and AI assistants rickroll paying customers!

We are a month away from Oktane -- the biggest identity event of the year. Okta is bringing thousands of identity industry thought leaders, IT and security executives, and other tech leaders together on October 15-17 to discuss the changing landscape for security and identity, how organizations are putting identity first, new Okta products, and more. Harish Peri, Senior Vice President of Product Marketing, joins Enterprise Security Weekly to discuss what people should expect from Oktane this year, the conversations that will take place at the event and why it’s important for security professionals to attend/tune in.

This segment is sponsored by Oktane. Visit https://securityweekly.com/oktane2024 and use discount code OKTNSC24 to pay only $100 for your full conference pass!

Ever wondered what it's like to be responsible for the cybersecurity of a sports team? How about when that sports team is one of the world's most successful Formula One teams? I can't describe how excited we are to share this interview. This interview is basically two huge F1 nerds who happen to also be cybersecurity veterans asking everything they've always wanted to know about what it takes to secure an F1 team.

For the folks out there that aren't familiar with this sport, Formula One is arguably the fastest, most watched, and most international automotive racing sport today. In the 2024 season, the racing series will feature ten teams traveling to 24 race tracks located in 21 different countries. Also, did you know that only two countries get more than one race? Italy gets to host two Grand Prix, and the United States gets to host three.

A HUGE thanks to Keeper Security and Darren Guccione for making this interview possible. This isn't a sponsored interview, but it was Keeper's PR team that pitched the idea for this interview to us, and as F1 fans, we're super grateful they did!

Segment Resources:

• Keeper Press Release on the Partnership
• Williams Press Release on the Partnership
• Some more details from Keeper on why they chose to sponsor automotive racing

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